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Pope: “My Senility is Clouding My Judgment”

23 February, 2005 (13:00) | Religion

As seen on CNN.com

ROME, Italy (Reuters) — Homosexual marriages are part of “a new ideology of evil” that is insidiously threatening society, Pope John Paul says in his newly published book.

In “Memory and Identity,” the Pope also calls abortion a “legal extermination” comparable to attempts to wipe out Jews and other groups in the 20th century.

He also reveals that he is convinced the Turkish gunman who shot him in 1981 did not act alone and suggests that the former Communist Bloc may have been behind the plot to kill him.

The 84-year-old Pontiff’s book, a highly philosophical and intricate work on the nature of good and evil, is based on conversations with philosopher friends in 1993 and later with some of his aides.

In one section about the role of lawmakers, the Pope takes another swipe at gay marriages when he refers to “pressures” on the European Parliament to allow them.

“It is legitimate and necessary to ask oneself if this is not perhaps part of a new ideology of evil, perhaps more insidious and hidden, which attempts to pit human rights against the family and against man,” he writes.

The Pope’s fifth book for mass circulation, issued by Italian publisher Rizzoli, sparked controversy in Germany and elsewhere after Jewish groups protested against leaked excerpts comparing the Holocaust to abortion.

In at least two sections of the book, the Pope talks about the Nazi attempt to exterminate Jews and the wholesale slaughter of political opponents by Communist regimes after World War Two.

‘Legal extermination’

In following paragraphs he says that legally elected parliaments in formerly totalitarian countries were today allowing what he called new forms of evil and new exterminations.

“There is still, however a legal extermination of human beings who have been conceived but not yet born,” he writes.

“And this time we are talking about an extermination which has been allowed by nothing less than democratically elected parliaments where one normally hears appeals for the civil progress of society and all humanity,” he writes.

In Germany, a leader of the country’s Central Council of Jews called the comparison unacceptable.

At a news conference presenting the book, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the Vatican’s top doctrinal official, dismissed the Jewish charges.

Ratzinger said the Pope “was not trying to put the Holocaust and abortion on the same plane” but only warning that evil lurked everywhere, “even in liberal political systems.”

In another section, the Pope describes at length the assassination attempt on May 13, 1981, when Turkish gunman Mehmet Ali Agca shot and nearly killed him in St Peter’s Square.

Of Agca, the Pope writes the assassination attempt was “not his initiative, someone else masterminded it and someone else commissioned it.”

Two trials in the early 1980s failed to prove prosecutors’ suspicions that Bulgaria’s secret services had masterminded a plot to kill the Pope on behalf of the Soviet Union.

At the time the Polish Pope was a strong supporter of the Solidarity trade union in his native Poland and the Soviet Union saw Solidarity as a threat to the stability of the communist bloc.

The Pope says the assassination attempt against him was perhaps “the last convulsion” of the ideologies of the 20th century — a clear reference to the Communist bloc.

Quick, somebody call Dr. Jack Kevorkian!

God, I am such an ass…

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  • to hell with kevorkian… just get a handgun.

    i always hated that guy… too bad he didn’t get whacked back in ’81.

  • to hell with kevorkian… just get a handgun.

    i always hated that guy… too bad he didn’t get whacked back in ’81.

  • I have a hard time with the idea that that crotchety old man who can barely say his name these days came up with “…extermination which has been allowed by nothing less than democratically elected parliaments where one normally hears appeals for the civil progress of society and all humanity..” right

  • I have a hard time with the idea that that crotchety old man who can barely say his name these days came up with “…extermination which has been allowed by nothing less than democratically elected parliaments where one normally hears appeals for the civil progress of society and all humanity..” right

  • I strongly disagree with what he said, but milennia-old traditions don’t vanish in an instant. To expect everyone in the world to unanimously and instantaneously adopt newer practices is unrealistic. If gay marriage and the right to abortion were meant to be, they will slowly enter the mainstream as accepted, as have all the other shocking changes to society. It’s just as wrong to insinuate that he deserves to die for his views.

  • I strongly disagree with what he said, but milennia-old traditions don’t vanish in an instant. To expect everyone in the world to unanimously and instantaneously adopt newer practices is unrealistic. If gay marriage and the right to abortion were meant to be, they will slowly enter the mainstream as accepted, as have all the other shocking changes to society. It’s just as wrong to insinuate that he deserves to die for his views.

  • I’m not a big fan of the Pope, and I’m certainly not religious (despite catholic upbringing, gag) but damn, something seems terribly villainish about saying “i always hated that guy… too bad he didn’t get whacked back in ’81” about the Pope..

    ..but more in the way that I wanna quote it. Like put it under a picture of the pope, and then make a poster out of it, and make money off of it. Wanna do it and split the profits 50/50? *grin*

  • I’m not a big fan of the Pope, and I’m certainly not religious (despite catholic upbringing, gag) but damn, something seems terribly villainish about saying “i always hated that guy… too bad he didn’t get whacked back in ’81” about the Pope..

    ..but more in the way that I wanna quote it. Like put it under a picture of the pope, and then make a poster out of it, and make money off of it. Wanna do it and split the profits 50/50? *grin*

  • hahaha, you are awesome. and yes, we can split the profits.

  • hahaha, you are awesome. and yes, we can split the profits.

  • i wouldn’t necessarily say that he deserves to die for his views, but at his age, the severe beating he deserves for being such an asshole would probably kill him.

  • i wouldn’t necessarily say that he deserves to die for his views, but at his age, the severe beating he deserves for being such an asshole would probably kill him.

  • I certainly don’t think he deserves to die, but considering the way he’s suffering, I think assisted suicide is an act of kindness for the old coot. He’s said he doesn’t think gay marriage is right despite the church refusing to take an official stance, and I have no problem with that. But, much like with the reaction to Ward Churchill’s comment, I think likening gay marriage and abortion to the genocide of Nazi Germany is a bad analogy.

    Did You Know: Mother Theresa also compared gays to nazis? Saint my ass.

  • I certainly don’t think he deserves to die, but considering the way he’s suffering, I think assisted suicide is an act of kindness for the old coot. He’s said he doesn’t think gay marriage is right despite the church refusing to take an official stance, and I have no problem with that. But, much like with the reaction to Ward Churchill’s comment, I think likening gay marriage and abortion to the genocide of Nazi Germany is a bad analogy.

    Did You Know: Mother Theresa also compared gays to nazis? Saint my ass.

  • It’s from his book. He probably started writing it long before his physical dysfunctions caught up with his mental ones.

  • It’s from his book. He probably started writing it long before his physical dysfunctions caught up with his mental ones.

  • I don’t know… he has been in pretty bad shape for at least a decade….

    I’m thinking ghost-writer…

  • I don’t know… he has been in pretty bad shape for at least a decade….

    I’m thinking ghost-writer…

  • “likening gay marriage and abortion to the genocide of Nazi Germany is a bad analogy.”

    to be fair, I think he compared abortion specifically to the extermination of Jews by the Nazis. I don’t think he connected that act to gay marriage in any way…

    Technically, both events are the killings of large numbers of humans… It’s a strange and muddled analogy, but there is that one similarity….

  • “likening gay marriage and abortion to the genocide of Nazi Germany is a bad analogy.”

    to be fair, I think he compared abortion specifically to the extermination of Jews by the Nazis. I don’t think he connected that act to gay marriage in any way…

    Technically, both events are the killings of large numbers of humans… It’s a strange and muddled analogy, but there is that one similarity….